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Creation vs Evolution: Profoundly simple. Profoundly Logical.

This video clip and the one below use a very simple approach to refuting the theory of evolution. These two short videos use profound logic in such an easy to understand way, that even a monkey can figure out that evolution is impossible.

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20 thoughts on “Creation vs Evolution: Profoundly simple. Profoundly Logical.”

  1. Videos like this seem to suggest that you have to be stupid to be a Christian. There are fish that can survive outside of the water, at least for short periods. Look up “lungfish”.

    Idiots.

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  2. “At least for short periods?” You mean like another million years till that fish evolves into something else? Face it Ron, any fish that wasn’t created to live outside water will die when it is outside water.

    Lets test your illogical theory, but in reverse! How about we hold you under water. After a million years do you think you’d sprout scales and turn into a fish?

    It’s the lack of logic behind the theory of evolution that makes evolutionists hard to reason with.

    And your name calling hurts your cause as well.

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  3. Pilgrim, you are preying on peoples’ ignorance, or you are ignorant yourself. According to this video, not only is evolution impossible, but lungfish are impossible too. But they do exist, and evolution is almost certainly true. Your video is wrong on both counts.

    As for

    Lets test your illogical theory, but in reverse! How about we hold you under water. After a million years do you think you’d sprout scales and turn into a fish?

    If you knew the first thing about evolution, you’d know that individual creatures don’t evolve–populations of creatures evolve. You really haven’t read anything about evolution that wasn’t in a Chick tract, have you?

    If your religious beliefs cause you to question the basic tenets of science, then either science is flawed or your beliefs are wrong. I wonder which is the case here?

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  4. Okay Ron, then let’s hold an entire population of people under water and wait to see what happens.

    And one species of fish (lungfish) does not prove evolution. It just shows that God created that creature as well.

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  5. Let me try and understand this.

    According to that video you’re so impressed with, lungfish are impossible, and because lungfish are impossible evolution is impossible.

    According to you, evolution makes the claim that if you drown either one individual creature or a whole population of them, this will force them to somehow evolve into frogs or something.

    Of course, evolution makes no such claims. These are called straw-man arguments. That’s when a person tries to refute an argument by dishonestly drawing up an inaccurate caricature of the argument and then refutes that, rather than what the argument actually says. In fact–prove me wrong. Show me where the theory of evolution says that you can force creatures to evolve by drowning them–and cite your source.

    I could see being as ignorant about evolution as you seem to be if you lived in rural Appalachia with no access to school, books or the internet. But you have access to a wide array of reliable information about evolution, so this level of stupidity is inexcusable.

    Here’s another example of the above:

    “And one species of fish (lungfish) does not prove evolution. It just shows that God created that creature as well.”

    Again, show me where the theory of evolution says that there is no God. Cite your source–which Chick tract did you get that from?

    Since you seem to feel that lungfish don’t prove evolution, then pray tell: What would prove evolution to you? I find it revealing that all the evidence that’s been built up over the last 150 years just isn’t enough to convince you that evolution is a valid theory, but what do you believe instead? You believe that life was just “poofed” into existence by God in six days per Genesis. And the scientific evidence that led you to accept this Biblical version is…what?

    One thing is certain. The actual experts in the field–working biologists, geologists and paleontologists–virtually to a man accept evolutionary theory. It’s simply a fact that the only people who still rail against evolution are religious fanatics.

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  6. I don’t know why you feel it is so necessary to constantly hurl insults. And I don’t know why if you think I’m so ignorant (as you keep saying) why you even waste your time corresponding with me.

    There is no straw-man. Evolution says animal A evolved into animal B over a gazillion years out of necessity (survival of the fittest). And that’s the beauty of that video. The simplicity of it shows that animal A could never evolve into animal B because it would die in the transition. (Furthermore there should be gazillions of fossils in the fossil record of intermediate species of which there are none). Either it was born with gills (which then it would die once on land) or it was be born with lungs (which then it would drown).

    So the same theory evolution uses regarding survival of the fittest would apply to drowning a million of people. Use a little logic here, Ron, if your theory is true, then that would mean in a million years, the offspring of those million people we drowned would grow gills and be able to breath under water (out of necessity… their environment changed). Your theory, when applied, falls apart.

    I also find it interesting that you say so many scientists, yada, yada, yada. Like science has never been wrong and these scientists don’t approach the subject with preconceived notions and agendas. Additionally science has to be observable. Evolution is not observable. So please quit making the leap.

    And don;t ignore the fact that there are many, many scientists who are beginning to deny evolution and turn to the theory of ID. So what are these scientists discovering about the problems of evolution that seem to escape you? Remember Ron, evolution is a THEORY not a fact. That’s your problem. You’re confusing the two.
    If you think otherwise, then use your “facts” and win $250,000 by proving it.
    Go to http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=67?pg=250k where the ability to prove evolution will literally pay off.

    You can’t prove evolution and I can’t prove God. But there will come a day when all will be revealed. Unfortunately for those who so much wanted to deny God’s existence, (or limit it), this will also be Judgment Day.

    You continue to rely on the “wisdom” of man who says “Look, I found a tooth, it must be from a prehistoric man who probably looked like this, dressed like this, hunted like this, etc.” Only for it to turn out to be a pigs tooth. But I will continue to rely on God, the creator of the universe and everything in it, including the lungfish, the platypus, the giraffe and you and I.

    I am done arguing, as I am sure you are. We both believe differently and neither will convince the other otherwise. I am also done reading your insults (as I hope you are done writing them). So from here, Ron, I give you the last word.

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  7. The last word? Cool.

    Ahem. [clears throat; Into the mike…]

    Dr. Dino, huh? When I said you get your science from Chick tracts I was just being mean. But you really do get your science from Chick tracts. Ouch.

    I don’t know how to tell you this, but that nice creation science evangelist is doing a few semesters upstate, if you know what I mean. In the old graybar college.
    It seems evolution isn’t the only thing he had issues with. He had a bone to pick with the IRS too, it seems.

    I guess the whole point of this is that you take your scientific worldview–at least in part–from the smartest guy in some S. Carolina correctional facility, while I get my science from the National Academy of Sciences, thankyewverymuch.

    Thanks for your kindness; bye…

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  10. An individual organism is unable to modify its genes to allow for, say, a pair of lungs to develop. However, over thousands of years, if the water were to get progressively shallower and warmer, fishes that were better able to survive in shallower, warmer water would live long enough to have baby fishes; those that couldn’t would die. One day, a fish, in desperation, might gulp a mouthful of air to supplement the meagre supply from its lungs , and then repeat doing this long enough to survive to a rainfall. It’s air-gulping ability will be passed on to its children via its genes. Those fishes that couldn’t gulp would die. If we follow this process of minute changes over, say, 500,000 iterations (parent->offspring->offspring…), we might see a species evolve from gill-breathing to lung-breathing. It’s a simple, elegant and natural explanation. The video failed to grasp this.

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  12. Capeslacker:
    That was pretty good. Did you come up with that on your own or did you get that from someone else with a wildly vivid imagination? I give you an A++ for creativity.

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  13. Well I say:
    Evolution has not been proven
    It is not a fact but a theory
    Now this whole thing of monkeys turning into humans e.t.c-
    I find it unreasonable…if you’ve ever observed and studied
    the human brain, its complexity will not allow you to
    easily believe in this natural selection thingy…
    for eg: let’s say you have to create a computer or device.
    now besides the necessary tools you have thousands of other tools
    now you have to make the device but perfectly…honestly
    do you think that would be possible without making a mistake?
    plus evolutionist scientists have not yet shown us the links or connections
    between fossils gradually changing
    eg: frog into bird…the links between the fossils; therefore
    fossils have failed to prove evolution

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  14. and for the device thing, you have to select with your
    eyes closed- that would be natural selection…
    which would be impossible
    Think about it.

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  15. I think both sides are arguing over the same thing. Let’s break down Genesis 1 and compare it to evolution.

    In Evolution:

    There is a big bang, planets form, life on earth comes around, less complex life forms emerge, life becomes a little more complex and a little more complex and a little more complex (etc), eventually man arrives.

    In Genesis:

    Nothing exists, then God speaks it into existence (sounds like a big bang to me). God creates heavens and earth (planets form). God creates lower complex forms of life. God creates more complex forms of life. God eventually creates man.

    Sounds the same to me.

    Very few educated Christian theologians believe the 6 days of creation are literal days. Most believe them to be “ages”. The original word used in the original text can be translated as “12 hours, 24 hours, or an indefinite age of time”. From other verses in Genesis it is CLEAR that the last definition is correct.

    Maybe if people decided to stop arguing and being so pig headed about their positions we’d all realize we are describing the very same thing!

    Scientific principles exist because GOD created the universe in an orderly pattern that can be interpreted more and more, through science, as our minds grasp deeper concepts. Mathematics and science work because our intelligent creator put things together in such an orderly fashion, even if we can’t fully comprehend it.

    If science and God ever conflict it’s because people are not interpreting data correctly. Christians need to dig deeper. Non-Christians need to dig deeper. We’re all looking at the same data.

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  16. Wow! I can not belive that you would call a creationist or a christian and idiot! The reason why you guys belive in evlolution is only becasue you grew up being taught evolution and you know nothing about all of the evidence aginst evolution. Or maybe you do know avout all of the evolution aginst evolution, but your too ignorant to belive what you know is true because you do not want to live with the fact that if you belived in creation you would have to belive in God, and your too stuck up to let someone else rule your life.

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  17. Well, I have only believed in evolution for 5 years or so.

    I was raised a born again christian and remained so for about 30 years.

    I figured out that christianity is bunk but it wasn’t until several years later that I started reading about evolution. I denied evolution at every step for years even after I lost my faith.

    I favored creationism at the time because I was brain-washed from a young age. It is VERY hard and takes a lot of time to undo the damage that brain-washing causes.

    I still have the books which I used to love that conclusively “Disprove” evolution and attempt to make anyone who would consider evolution look like a complete idiot.

    Believe me! It took alot of courage on my behalf to investigate the possibility of evolution. When you believe something so strongly for so long, it’s HARD to let it go!

    Once I started educating myself, the answer was so obvious. The science is sound. When evaluated with an open heart and and open mind, Evolution wins.

    I spent a lot of time debunking evolution, but through that period of my life I never once allowed myself to look at evidence in support of evolution! I didn’t want it anywhere near me! I feared it! And that’s not an easy thing for me to admit.

    I think that is where a lot of you are at with this topic. You are afraid to look at real evidence and when you do see it, you immediately grab the nearest “Evolution is Bunk-o” book to reaffirm your faith in creationism.

    Evolution is not contrary to christianity, BTW.

    I would highly recommend that you take a look at a Nova show that was on PBS entitled “Intelligent Design On Trial”

    “Dr. Kenneth Miller testified at the Dover trial as an expert witness for the plaintiffs, the Dover parents who brought suit against their town’s school board. Here, Miller, who stresses that he is also a man of faith, talks about why evolution matters, what flaws he sees in the intelligent-design argument, and why the Dover decision hardly means the end of the controversy.”

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/defense-ev.html

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  20. ‘from little things big things grow’

    a small seed grows into a huge tree
    sperm and egg come together to create a baby who grows to become a adult.

    It a miracle! Everything is a miracle!

    if we see this process in nature and even in our own miraculous existence,
    yes ,we as complex human beings grow from microscopic ‘seed’ if you like.
    then its quite possible for our other physical realities to grow or ‘evolve’ into more complex entities.
    (That does’t mean we have to believe in the Darwinian type evolution which is rather crude and unsophisticated.)
    How does it come about, well I suggest its the activity of ‘Spirit’ acting upon ‘matter’. God the Intelligence of the universe does not create the way we create things outside ourselves, rather ‘He’ breathes life or spirit into ‘forms’ and they grow or evolve, for God is always creating the world anew each moment. ‘Spirit’ interacts with ‘matter’ continually, everthing is in continual growth. So if we don’t like the word ‘evolution’, maybe we can use the word ‘growth’. The early Christians, the apostolic fathers, the Church fathers didn’t interpret the book of Genesis in a ‘fleshly’ literal manner, they recognised it was describing spiritual realities in Hebrew spiritual metaphor , the interaction of spirit and ‘matter’, which can’t be descibed in literal ‘fleshly’ language, or even modern materialistic scientific language.

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