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Oh Amy Grant, what have you become?

Contemporary Christian Music recording artist Amy Grant is receiving her star on Hollywood’s walk of fame in this clip. But not all is at it seems. Amy Grant utters something that may come as a shock to some (hopefully many).

Skip ahead to 8:00 minutes and begin listening from there. Her comment hits at exactly 8 minutes and 21 seconds. And what’s equally disappointing is the reaction of the crowd.

Amy, did you not care about the children that were in attendance? Did you not care about the influence of your behavior and immodest dress on those who look up to you? Did you not care about the example you set for the Savior that you claim to represent?

 

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41 thoughts on “Oh Amy Grant, what have you become?”

  1. Amy, did you not care about the children that were in attendance? Did you not care about the influence of your behavior and immodest dress on those who look up to you? Did you not care about the example you set for the Savior that you claim to represent?

    Eh, not so much. Not when there’s a whole world out there waiting to applaud.

    I am so glad you posted this. I had put up a video of her singing “Hark the Herald Angels Sing” from back in ’92. I have since taken it down and replaced it.

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  2. Yes, I saw your post. It reminded me of the above video so I searched it out and posted it (just for you). For some reason I had a sneaking suspicion that you would respond the way you did. :o)

    Merry Christmas!

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  3. To quote a person who left a comment for this video on YouTube: “Don’t we all have feet of clay? ONLY GOD is perfect! Judge not, lest ye be judged! And I won’t judge you for judging, since I’m a bit judgemental, too! How dare you sit in judgement of Amy Grant? Even if her personal life was a shambles, she has done more to promote God’s Kingdom than many of us. How many people have turned to God as a result of her beautiful praise music? She took Christian music and helped breathe life into it, so it wasn’t boring organ music, but vital and exciting!”

    …I don’t even feel like I need to comment on that statement. That kind of “support” speaks for itself.

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  4. Might I suggest that you put a clear content warning right above or below the video link. I did not expect her to be that crass.

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  7. roopster,

    Yes, it does. This is a Christian site, a family-friendly site, and we do not stoop to the low morals of the world, nor the lowered standards of many corrupted “churches” in America today who would have no problem hearing that word come from the pulpit. While you may not find it offensive, others do. We do. And there is no reason a woman who claims to be “singing for God” should be using this kind of language. There are some websites where the use of that word is accepted, and expected. This is not one of those sites.

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  9. fourpointer, no one will be without sin for their entire stay on this planet. And furthermore, how is mentioning your body parts a sin? I guess I must’ve missed that part.

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  10. Actually, you’re right about one thing. “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23).

    As far as using cuss words to describe body parts, I would refer you to Ephesians 4:29–“let no corrupt communication proceed from your mouth.” Here’s an idea: if you have a young child, or a niece or nephew, use certain words to describe certain body parts to them, if it’s not such a bad thing. Use words like “p***y” when you’re talking to your 4-year old niece about her privates. Nothing wrong with that, right?

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  12. I have a problem with cursing. I do it far to often. I wish that I didn’t and I would be better off if everyone corrected me on it each time that I failed to control myself. If I ever soil my public witness with “corrupt communication” I hope that my brothers and sisters will point out my error and rebuke me this strongly. It has happened before and will probably happen again.

    Lowering standards of behavior is not forgiveness; it is enablement. We are called to love, forgive, and encourage… not enable and excuse.

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  14. Quroting ”let no corrupt communication proceed from your mouth. Ephesians 4:29”

    Of course, the issue is whether or not the thing she said was corrupt. Reiterating that we should not say corrupt things, says nothing about how to define corrupt. Though I suppose it could be open to opinion. The description as I interpreted it had no allegory to sexuality, but was more of a metaphor for a figurehead.

    Quoting “Here’s an idea: if you have a young child, or a niece or nephew, use certain words to describe certain body parts to them, if it’s not such a bad thing. Use words like “p***y” when you’re talking to your 4-year old niece about her privates. Nothing wrong with that, right?”

    Except for the fact that, she didn’t say that. Anyway, I’m obviously not going to change your mind on this issue, nor do I care to. Just representing my point of view.

    Have a nice day.

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  15. Okay, lets settle what constitutes profanity. The translation of the word in question can be “corrupt”, “corrupting”, “profane”, or “unwholesome”. The modern world has cheapened the meaning of these terms. FCC censorship does not determine the definition of profanity, the dictionary does. As an example:

    pro·fane [ prō fáyn, prə fáyn ] (adj): 1. irreverent: showing disrespect for God, any deity, or religion; 2. secular: not connected with or used for religious matters; 3. uninitiated: not initiated into sacred or secret rites.

    But the Greek word goes deeper than that. The words that are being discussed in the passage are not just thos that are inherently corrupt. It can also include those that are technically clean but are used in such a way that they lead us “to corrupt” ourselves (via lies, innuendo, gossip, complaining, sarcasm, etc.)

    This understanding makes sense in the context of the entire passage. Here is the full verse in context: “Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but ONLY SUCH A WORD AS IS GOOD FOR EDIFICATION ACCORDING TO THE NEED OF THE MOMENT, SO THAT IT WILL GIVE GRACE TO THOSE WHO HEAR.” [Eph 4:29]

    The scriptural definition for what our language should sound like is even higher than the secular definition. The Bible restricts us to: “only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment.” Corrupt is EVERYTHING that is not holy and edifying. That covers alot of clean words that are rude, sarcastic, or inflamatory.

    We see this concept also covered in other epistles. For example, “Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not.” [1 Timothy 5:13]

    So the Bible teaches that the specific words that we use are not as important as how they are used and why we use them. This extends back to the Old Testament where the 10 Commandments speak several times about how our words have consequences.

    We also hear advice about watching what we say. We read, “When words are many, transgression is not lacking, but whoever restrains his lips is prudent. The tongue of the righteous is choice silver; the heart of the wicked is of little worth. The lips of the righteous feed many, but fools die for lack of sense.” [Proverbs 10:19-21]

    This standard is so high that the Bible teaches that even the most proper among speak corruption. All fall short of God’s standard for proper speech on a regular–if not daily–basis. As James says, “but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.” [James 3:8]

    So, the specific words used in her metaphor are not so important (even though they were crass, shocking, and scandelous.) The fact that what she said causes others to stumble and become upset is Scriptural reason enough for her not to have said it. She could have inserted any biological term in place of what she said, but it still would have been an inappropriate statement for a Christian to make… especially in public.

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  17. Why are we debating with the world what profane is? It’s like debating the colors of the rainbow with a man born blind.

    What’s really sad, though, is that many times we have to debate this kind of thing with those who profess to be Christians.

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  18. The comment poorly represented a Christian artist in public, accepting a star, with family in attendance. She acted like a member of Motley Crue and it shocked me. I hope it was just a dumb comment and not the norm. I really hate that word anyway.

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  19. “Why are we debating with the world what profane is? It’s like debating the colors of the rainbow with a man born blind.”

    I disagree with this line of thinking. While it is true that the world thinks that the things of God are foolishness to man [1 Cor 1:18]; the things that this world permits and values are worth discussion. Until the Last Day, this world will remain lost and corrupt because of Adam and Eve’s fall from grace, but people within that world are drawn to the righteousness of God by the power of the Holy Spirit. It is when people attempt to live a truly holy life that they recognize their absolute inability to meet the holy standard. Profane language is but one example of this. We all rebel. We all fall short. By our imperfect natures from Adam and Eve, we–in our sinful flesh–despise the things of God and hold righteousness in contempt. Because of that imperfection and willful rebellion against God, we all deserve death and an eternity in hell. The wages of sin–any sin–is death.

    It is this unattainable standard of perfect holiness that must be preached to lost people. When the impossibility of man’s righteousness before God is understood, the God the Father draws lost people to God the Son by the power of God the Spirit. When our failures cause us to let go and accept that we are unable to please God in any way and that we hourly rebel against His perfect and just will, the Holy Spirit breaks our stubborn pride and brings us to the realization that we need a Savior.

    That Savior is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who takes away the sins of the world. Fully God and fully Man, His perfect obedience in this life, His innocent suffering and death on the cross, and His miraculous resurrection from the dead, won the universal atonement of eternal forgiveness for all sins that were, are, and will ever be committed; even the minor but deadly ones. His total victory over death broke the chains of hell for us and established the hope of eternity in heaven. Eternal life and blessed glory await all who believe in the Savior by faith. Christ has accomplished everything. The burden of the unyielding standard that you have never achieved is lifted and placed on Jesus. There is nothing left to be done. Christ did all of the work.

    But it is that unyielding standard that brings people to repentance and salvation. Without it, men remain secure in their sin and fail to recognize the gravity of their depravity, selfishness, and unbelief. If there is nothing wrong with the world, then why would it need to be saved? The preaching of the Law that convicts and kills is an essential part of the preaching the Gospel that vivifies and forgives. This dual message of God is essential and should never be abbreviated or confused.

    So, I think that discussions about God’s standard are not futile. On the contrary, they are the first part of the very essence of our witness to the world as Christians. Even Christians need to hear the preaching of the Law.

    Knowing that, like Amy, I am full of sin and betrayal, I am driven to rely on the tender mercy of Jesus Christ. We all need to hear how impossible righteousness truly is as a weapon against self-righteousness and self-delusion. When we come to know that, apart from the power of the Holy Spirit, we are never any better (and so often 10,000 times worse) than this example; we finally see clearly and begin to know that we truly need Our Savior Jesus Christ, the Son of God, for salvation. We begin to live by the Spirit of God which drives us to fight against the sinful desires of our flesh through daily repentance and faith.

    There is nothing more useful and important than that.

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  20. Wow…people really need to get out of their little computer rooms and doing something that changes the world…ie…sharing the gospel & bringing justice to a hurting world.

    I honestly can’t believe the pettiness of whoever posted this thing. “Tits”…i still feel like I wasted 8 minutes of my life to watch something as bland as what you are putting forth. The blood of Christ is so much bigger than all of this…if you got away from the keyboard and put your feet on the streets you’d see what it can do…

    If this is reformation then I’ve signed up for the wrong commission! I hope the next time any of you gossip or swear your salvation is called into question…so much for it being free, sounds like you have to do stuff to keep it…

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  22. Wow… it’s like Brett didn’t even read my last two comments. 😦

    I’m sorry that you missed the point of this whole discussion. The commission that you “signed up for” is one of high standards… not ever lowering ones. The public witness of EVERY Christian is damaged when individuals fall into temptations that scandalize the church. The “come as you are and stay that way” belief system that is modern Christianity is not changing lives; it is enabling people to feel better about living in unrepentant sin and superficial faith. The Christianity that allows men and women to remain secular and vulgar without holding them accountable is fake and hallow. A faith that fails to work by love, truth, and righteousness is dead. A Christian who is like the unbeleiver drags souls into secure unbelief.

    Calling us petty for wanting to protect the ever weakening credibility of American Christianity is a little judgemental and harsh, don’t you think? Was Jesus being petty and nit-picky when He said, “But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” [Matt 5:28] Things like thoughts and looking are pretty bland… but they were important to Christ because holiness is not determined by the standards of sinful men. It is determined by the perfect standard of God.

    …and I am a little offended that you seem to be able to judge our hearts and private lives with so much certainty based on a few lines of text on the internet. I guess you have us all figured out.

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  23. I seriously doubt that Amy Grant was awarded this Hollywood Star without her knowledge. And thus, I seriously doubt she had not prepared the statement that she gave. And even if she didn’t have it all planned out, she had to have some kind of idea about what she was going to say.

    After all these years of being a professing Christian, this is an example of the maturity and self-control new Christians have to look forward to when they’ve been in the faith as long as she has? Thanks for lowering the bar one more notch Mrs. Gill-Grant.

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  24. I posted previously, but I’m with Brett. You can effectively make anything into a sin, because of our sinful nature. Fair enough. But there are many issues affecting the world right now, that are more important than being crass. I dare say, it’s more important doing something to stem the tide of Christians and undecided people who are buying into secular atheist propaganda, than to nitpick a saved Christian’s values.

    Sin is sin, but since we are humans and we aren’t God, we should prioritize our work here on earth. As we do not have infinite time to save people. If we did, than critiquing every word that comes out of a singers mouth would be a viable thing to do. I guess it’s just a matter of perspective. Perhaps you believe that striving towards perfection is the way to bring people salvation, and I believe that you’ll find more people that need saving out there in the gutter, than in Christian music.

    I won’t ever diss someone for trying to be the best they can be though, it’s certainly an admirable thing. We all have our way of bringing people to God.

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  25. Again, if this is the behavior of years of being a professing Christian, what do new Christians have to look forward to?

    Her behavior lowered the bar and told a dying and unbelieving world that there isn’t much of a difference between us and you. You can be crass, offensive, and dress immodestly and still be called a Christian. This is what the world calls “hypocrisy” and this is what repels the world from the message of the cross.

    If she just got saved last week, I can understand. But she’s supposedly been a Christian for decades and this is her example of Christian maturity?

    How about ceasing in the assistance of the lowering of standards, and help by raising the standard. Quit making excuses for poor behavior that defames the name of our Savior and call those who do so to account. Without holiness, no one can see God.

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  26. The Holy Bible tells me that the earth is under the god of this world; Satan. Most churches and Christians need to line themselves up according to scripture. However, it is shameful that most do line themselves up with apostate view of the broad gate and the easy way, according to Matthew chapter seven. These will be the people in whom Jesus described as saying, “Lord, Lord, did I not prophesy in your name? Did I not cast out demons and perform many works in your name? Jesus replies, I know you not, wicked and sinful one’s, get away from me.” While Jesus replies, being rapacious, along with existentialistic views against God’s word is not giving him the glory, to say the least. Perfidious carnal behavior has to be judged according to St. Paul; please read 1 Corinthians chapter five in the entirety. James also tells us we will be known by our fruits!

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  30. I lost respect for her a long time ago, ever since she dumped her husband for that other guy. God hates divorce, but apparently it didn’t bother her enough to dissuade her from such a “solution.”

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  32. Perhaps this should be censored too…

    Proverbs 5:19
    “Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.”

    Song of Solomon 7:8
    I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples;

    Ezekiel 16:7
    I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.

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  33. The comments were more in bad taste than anything else. They were immature, inconsiderate and inappropriate. Although it’s a matter of accountability, she should have been more circumspect about her choice of words. The things I’ve witnessed in Christendom across the board denominationally that appall me most, this one could be categorized as ill-mannered and unnecessary. The world is watching.

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  34. Mr. Seney:

    I’m not quite sure what comments you were referring to that were in “bad taste.” I hope that you realize that there were mockers and scoffers who commented on this thread as well as Christians.

    You were absolutely correct when you said, “The world is watching.” That’s why what Amy Grant did was uncalled for, and brought shame upon the very Christ she claims to follow.

    What the world wants to “see” is Christians stop judging them and start cleaning our own house! Holding our own accountable before we begin pointing our fingers at the world. After all, the world is supposed to act like the world; they’re unregenerate. It’s when those professing to be not of this world (i.e. Christians) act like the world that there is a problem and I am thoroughly convinced the world is tired of Christian hypocrisy. They are starving to see one’s walk match their talk, and sadly, this is too often a rare spectacle to behold.

    This is precisely why I wrote the following quotes above:

    “After all these years of being a professing Christian, this is an example of the maturity and self-control new Christians have to look forward to when they’ve been in the faith as long as she has? Thanks for lowering the bar one more notch Mrs. Gill-Grant”

    “Again, if this is the behavior of years of being a professing Christian, what do new Christians have to look forward to?”

    “Her behavior lowered the bar and told a dying and unbelieving world that there isn’t much of a difference between us and you. You can be crass, offensive, and dress immodestly and still be called a Christian. This is what the world calls “hypocrisy” and this is what repels the world from the message of the cross.”

    “If she just got saved last week, I can understand. But she’s supposedly been a Christian for decades and this is her example of Christian maturity?”

    Sincerely,
    – The Pilgrim

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  35. When she divorced her husband of many years, Gary Chapman (with whom she has several children), to marry Vince Gill with whom she was having an affair, that was the last time I listened to her music. She has always talked the talk, but I haven’t seem much walking the walk. I think she is a poor role model for young people. That is just my humble opinion. This clip does not surprise me much. She loves being a ‘star’.

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  36. The consequences of this will never leave her family. They will always hurt them. I could see if they had just broken up and she went her way and he went his, but her getting together with Vince and marrying him immediately shows something was definitely going on between them and they weren’t living the Christian life that she always proclaimed to live. I don’t want to hear about her miserable marriage either because life is miserable a whole lot of the time. We make the most of it. No need to hurt innocent people to get what you want. I’m no longer a fan. She has lost all credibility with me.

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  37. Even after these many years, I still feel a very deep wound left by the circumstances surrounding Amy’s departure from biblical living and a biblical witness. We are all called to carry the cross given us if we would be followers of Jesus Christ.

    The comment I believe is telling as it reflects her struggle in understanding that we are in the world but not “of it.” I believe for Amy throughout her career–those lines have been blurred.

    What she gained in the progress of the Gospel has been tainted in the fall-out following her divorce and the direction she has chosen since she “crossed the line” and lost her biblical prespective on Christian living.

    I pray for her and deeply feel the hurt that still lingers in many parts of the Christian community. We love her in Christ, but grieve over the decisions she has made in recent years.

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  38. I have always thought that Amy Grant was trash and seeing and hearing all of this doesn’t surprise me. People are right about the Sandi Patti thing. She has a beautiful voice. Nobody is perfect, but we should expect better. People absolutely destroyed Jimmy Swaggart and he lost everything. I have more sympathy for him than I do the rest. After all, if I had Mickey Gilley and Jerry Lee Lewis for relatives I would have flipped out long ago. Jimmy was supposed to be the perfect one and he fell. The only bad thing was that he hassled another preacher in Louisiana for the same thing. That was hypocritical. More important than this, look at who we have preaching on television: Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollarbill, Jesse Duplantis (Mr. Ego) and the rest of his ilk. Like Dr. Martin said, they are not contending for the faith once delivered unto the saints.

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  39. I just saw this and posted a comment on YouTube. Amy’s music powerfully ministered the things of God to a whole generation. And look at her now – no different to an unbeliever. We can argue forever over her language, but it simply does not reflect well on her Lord to speak in such a way in public. Likewise the low-cut dress is not appropriate for a Christian. We are to be ambassadors for Christ, not reflect the crude sexualised world (and in case anyone’s wondering, I’m not suggesting that you have to wear a prairie dress and speak like the Queen of England!).

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