19 thoughts on “The Miraculous Evolution of Bats”

1. This is a contrived dualism. Seems like you are saying that “either evolution can explain everything, or we can invoke abrupt appearance creation”… It’s not one so it must be the other…

   I don’t get that logic. You evidenve for ID needs to be more than simply… the other theory can not explain everything…

   You don’t have any evidence for a designer, so you say that it’s either evolution or it’s design. And if evolution cannot explain everything, that lack of a complete explanation amounts to evidence for the other side. I’m sorry, but it doesn’t.

   I am not saying there is no God or that God did not create us. Isn’t it plausable that God used evolution to create all the different life forms on earth?

   My belief is that there is overwhelming evidence for evolution and that the creator used evolution to create. However, I also acknowledge the fact that there is no actual evidence for a creator…

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2. Rusty,

   Even the most drunkenly indoctrinated evolutionary theorists have long since abandoned the passé notion of “Where/how did life originate?” and have moved deeper into the question “Where/how did the information for life originate?”

   By now all scientists know those pesky little DNA strands prove that a thing is specifically coded, “programmed” if you will, to be precisely what it is.

   DNA has proven to be a double-edged sword for the evolutionary true believers because instead of answering their questions and unlocking the mysteries of life’s origins the swirling staircase of mystery only resulted in more – and different – questions.

   DNA, RNA, mitochondria and all the various and interdependent cellular mechanisms act as evidence against chance mutations resulting in “improvements” to organisms. In fact in every case mutations result in a degradation of the organism’s life sustaining capability, to say nothing of its procreation ability (procreation is evidently difficult when an organism ceases to live).

   Sadly your sound byte comments are textbook evolution 101 stuff. The most advanced thinkers in the field of evolutionary biology would laughingly mock your stultified, clumsy, and frankly ignorant assertions, while simultaneously every true and faithful Christian must reject you outright as an unbeliever due to your rejection of God’s revealed, inspired, infallible, and inerrant Word.

   You my friend seem to be a man without a country and I’m not sure you even realize how very alone you truly are.

   But stick around here long enough and by God’s grace alone you may come to the knowledge of the Truth. I’m praying for you.

   In Christ,
   CD

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3. Coram Deo,

   I find it very disturbing that you claim that Rusty is an unbeliever simply for stating that the Bible is not a science textbook. That has been a fact since Galileo’s mockery of a trial. When Genesis speaks of creation it is ambiguous on the span of time or the exact mechanism of the creation of life as we know it. To claim that a person is damned due to their stance on the origin of life is Pharisaical, and a worse offense in my mind. If you notice Rusty says that he believes a creator used evolution to create, nowhere does he say anything that would suggest he is an unbeliever. And to address your anti-evolution argument. It is true that there are holes in the evolutionary theory, however it is still the best theory backed by the best SCIENTIFIC evidence. Once six day creationists produce scientific evidence of their beliefs then it can be certified as a real theory. Until that day, ID is the best, and not the most well-rounded, attempt at countering evolution. If you have physical evidence observed by God-given eyes for something, evidence that does not contradict your belief set, then it is far more intelligent and rational to believe that evidence versus blind belief in an extra-Biblical dogmatic version of the origin of life.

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4. Grant,

   I usually “find it very disturbing” when people take secondary offense, but in this case I was glad to read your comment since it gives me an opportunity to bear witness of God’s sovereign glory to you and others who might stumble across this exchange. Soli Deo Gloria!

   First I should begin by pointing out that I did not insinuate that “Rusty is an unbeliever simply for stating that the Bible is not a science textbook”. Please demonstrate that accusation or else retract it as the baseless distortion that it is.

   By his own admission Rusty clearly rejects God’s account of creation as recorded in the book of Genesis therefore I can only conclude that someone who rejects God’s Word is in unbelief of God’s Word. With this in mind I don’t know what else to call someone in unbelief except for an unbeliever. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable if I called Rusty an agnostic, yet by definition an agnostic is still an unbeliever so we’re back to square one. I guess you’ll just continue to feel “disturbed” about this wholly appropriate descriptor of poor, unbelieving Rusty.

   In fact I think you may be confused about what a Christian actually is. Consider that the demons in hell believe in the Creator and tremble. Are we to be satisfied with a demonic faith?

   It doesn’t take anything akin to saving faith to say, “Gee, you know the world is really complex and amazing and I think there must be a creator behind all of this”. This is called natural revelation and is seen by all men everywhere. In fact in conjunction with his own conscience placed by God inside of him the natural revelation is constantly pointing an accusing finger at the unrepentant sinner and screaming GUILTY! GUILTY!! GUILTY!!!

   Atheists stand over against natural revelation and attempt to suppress the truth of God in unrighteousness, yet the atheist and the unregenerate (i.e. not born-again) creationist are on equal ground with respect to their unbelief and eternal condemnation lest they bend the knee to the Christian God as He has revealed Himself in the Holy Bible.

   I utterly reject your statement that “physical evidence observed by God-given eyes” is the best attempt at countering evolution. At the heart of this matter is depraved, sinful man’s wholesale rejection of God; not anything like a lack of “evidence” for or against God. The evidence for God is overwhelming, and indisputable, yet wicked men simply reject the evidence because they hate God and love their sin. In place of God they set up rational humanistic, natural materialistic idol gods in a vain effort to salve their seared consciences.

   Since the fall in the garden men have, by nature, stopped their ears and ran screaming away from God as fast as they can because of their depraved, wicked, unregenerate and invariably sinful natures.

   No Grant, nothing like evidence or the lack thereof is the cure for the “evolution debate” so-called. Instead the Eternal Gospel is the singular solution to culture and unbelief, even the type of unbelief that’s masked as intellectualism and science.

   Therefore the worldlings can have their worldly wisdom so-called. They can confer diplomas and bestow titles upon one another and call each other “Doctor”, and “Professor” until they turn blue in the face and turn back to the dust from whence they came; but God Almighty has seen fit to make the wisdom of this world foolishness by the preaching of the cross.

   God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty – 1 Corinthians 1:27

   According to the Holy Bible the preaching of the gospel is God’s chosen strategy to change men’s sinful hearts and we – who belong to the church, the true body of Christ; Christians – are not permitted to modify it. Men are not permitted by God to substitute their own strategies in place of His own holy counsel!

   Look, the Holy Bible contains God’s strategy for changing the culture – preaching the gospel!

   The Holy Bible contains God’s strategy for changing men’s hearts – preaching the gospel!

   The Holy Bible contains God’s strategy for making foolish the wisdom of this world – preaching the gospel!

   The Holy Bible contains the cure for the culture – preaching the gospel!

   Each and every time worldly professing Christians seek after the world’s approval and esteem it results in apostasy, heresy, rank idolatry and finally unbelief…every time! Compromise with the world has always been the evil key that unlocks the door to the sad and predictable demise of God’s people in every age.

   Am I anti-evolution? I notice you chose to use a negative frame of reference, which I assume is not by mere happenstance. I accept that I am guilty as charged, but I would of course choose a positive frame of reference for my position – I’m pro-Gospel.

   In Christ,
   CD

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5. Coram Deo literally means “before the face of God”. It carries the notion of our living in the presence of God, under the authority of God and to the honor and glory of God.

   With your response, do you feel as though you lived up to your name? Seriously, I would never have expected such a condesending, scathing and mean spirited response to what is only my opinion that I wanted to share with you guys.

   Corem Deo, you exemplify exactly why so many people run from Christianity. You will never convince anyone to share your religious beliefs with that kind of an attitude, and I deeply regret that people like you are found all too comonly in Christianity.

   I decided to reply to this blog simply to share my opinion. I was never disrespectful. I did not insult anyone.

   You know nothing about my religious beliefs nor do I wish to share them with you. I think I’ve a pretty good idea of your beliefs, though. I’m going to hell going to hell. Right. Got it. Thank you.

   Back to topic.

   Mitochondrial DNA has ONLY helped us to understand evolution even better! In fact Mitochondrial DNA is used to construct evolutionary trees. The revolution in DNA technology has been a major advance for evolutionists. The reason is that the very nature of DNA allows it to be used as a “document” of evolutionary history: comparisons of the DNA sequences of various genes between different organisms can tell us a lot about the relationships of organisms that cannot otherwise be correctly inferred.

   On mutations… To say that mutations can not result in improvements to organisms is wrong.

   Example:
   Four or five million years ago, the Antarctic Ocean, which was warm at the time, froze over as a result of a kind of climate change on this planet. Well, to this day, there are fish that swim in the oceans of Antarctica. Now, even though the saltwater is actually below the freezing point—our own blood would freeze solid in that cold water—these fish don’t. The reason they don’t freeze solid is because their blood contains an antifreeze protein,
   How did they get it? The antifreeze protein that is found in the blood of Antarctic fishes was the result of a digestive enzyme that was mutated, retargeted to the bloodstream, and then mutated again and again to enhance its antifreeze properties. All of these changes were the result of mutation.
   Now, that Antarctic fish has a kind of biological information that its ancestors didn’t have. It has the ability to make a completely new protein that enables it to survive in very cold waters by preventing its blood from freezing. That’s novel information, and it’s information that was produced by the process of mutation.

   Also, If you think of evolution as be merely a sequence of random chance mutations, then you honestly do not understand anything about what evolution is. I’m sure you do not want to understand it and that is your perogitive… You must be in fear that understanding science will destroy belief in God.

   I, for one, believe that the two can co-exist quite nicely. And that was the whole point of my original post.

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6. Coram Deo literally means “before the face of God”. It carries the notion of our living in the presence of God, under the authority of God and to the honor and glory of God.

   With your response, do you feel as though you lived up to your name? Seriously, I would never have expected such a condesending, scathing and mean spirited response to what is only my opinion that I wanted to share with you guys.

   Corem Deo, you exemplify exactly why so many people run from Christianity. You will never convince anyone to share your religious beliefs with that kind of an attitude, and I deeply regret that people like you are found all too comonly in Christianity.

   I decided to reply to this blog simply to share my opinion. I was never disrespectful. I did not insult anyone.

   You know nothing about my religious beliefs nor do I wish to share them with you. I think I’ve a pretty good idea of your beliefs, though. I’m going to hell going to hell. Right. Got it. Thank you.

   Back to topic.

   Mitochondrial DNA has ONLY helped us to understand evolution even better! In fact Mitochondrial DNA is used to construct evolutionary trees. The revolution in DNA technology has been a major advance for evolutionists. The reason is that the very nature of DNA allows it to be used as a “document” of evolutionary history: comparisons of the DNA sequences of various genes between different organisms can tell us a lot about the relationships of organisms that cannot otherwise be correctly inferred.

   On mutations… To say that mutations can not result in improvements to organisms is wrong.

   Example:
   Four or five million years ago, the Antarctic Ocean, which was warm at the time, froze over as a result of a kind of climate change on this planet. Well, to this day, there are fish that swim in the oceans of Antarctica. Now, even though the saltwater is actually below the freezing point—our own blood would freeze solid in that cold water—these fish don’t. The reason they don’t freeze solid is because their blood contains an antifreeze protein,
   How did they get it? The antifreeze protein that is found in the blood of Antarctic fishes was the result of a digestive enzyme that was mutated, retargeted to the bloodstream, and then mutated again and again to enhance its antifreeze properties. All of these changes were the result of mutation.
   Now, that Antarctic fish has a kind of biological information that its ancestors didn’t have. It has the ability to make a completely new protein that enables it to survive in very cold waters by preventing its blood from freezing. That’s novel information, and it’s information that was produced by the process of mutation.

   Also, If you think of evolution as be merely a sequence of random chance mutations, then you honestly do not understand anything about what evolution is. I’m sure you do not want to understand it and that is your perogitive… You must be in fear that understanding science will destroy belief in God.
   I, for one, believe that the two can co-exist quite nicely. And that was the whole point of my original post.

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7. which of God’s revealed, inspired, infallible, and inerrant Word do I reject by believing in evolution?

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8. Grant,

   There is no evidence for evolution. It is wishful thinking by those who want to live their lives without having to think about giving account to their Creator.

   Rusty,

   You are correct that disproving evolution doesn’t prove the Bible. There is plenty of evidence for a young earth, and a global flood about 4000 years ago.

   Evolution contradicts Genesis chapters 1-11. It also contradicts what Jesus said about creation taking 6 days. If evolution is true, we should throw the Bible away.

   Thanks,
   Bill

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9. Bill,

   There is indeed evidence for evolution. I’m sorry there just is. I was raised to believe in a literal six-day creation, however, when faced with the evidence of evolution I was forced to consider whether that would be contrary to my beliefs. And much to my surprise and happiness I found that evolution and the Bible are indeed compatible. I am not alone in my view. Consider these quotes from the great St. Augustine of Hippo:

   “In short, it must be said that our authors knew the truth about the nature of the skies, but it was not the intention of the Spirit of God, who spoke through them, to teach men anything that would not be of use to them for their salvation” (The Literal Interpretation of Genesis, 2:6)

   “For in these days [of creation] the morning and evening are counted until, on the sixth day, all things which God then made were finished, and on the seventh the rest of God was mysteriously and sublimely signalized. What kind of days these were is extremely difficult or perhaps impossible for us to conceive, and how much more to say!” (City of God 11:6)

   Even as far back as 400 AD great Biblical scholars and saints realized that there was a indeed symbolic and allegorical nature to the Genesis story. Nowhere in the theory of evolution is God prohibited. In fact, when I look at the world and see how properly and amazingly evolution explains it I marvel at the awesome power of a God who could both create the system and the creatures in the system in His infinite wisdom. Who are we to dictate time to God, the creator of time. How do we not know that a day to God isn’t a billion years? As fallible man writing about an infallible God, Moses was sure to lack complete and supreme understanding of how God viewed time.

   One last point. It is sad the way evolution has been hijacked by atheists and agnostics who are spiteful of the truth of Christianity and hate everything in it. But do not let the simple fact that evil people hold the theory of evolution deter you from prayerfully seeking out the Truth. There are evil people who hold that they are Christians, does this make us shy away from our own faith?

   If people do not prayerfully, with an open heart and mind asking God for just a tiny bit of His infinite wisdom, consider all the evidence regarding evolution and creation then they are not seeking truth. If you have examined the evidence and still choose not to believe it, then that is fine. However, do not hold dogmatically to your views and then Pharisaically pass judgment on people who do not share your opinion on this non-essential (salvation wise) belief. Nothing angers me more than to see good true believers riding high on their horse spouting drivel about science, when a VAST majority of them have never even taken the time to consider any kind of evidence.

   I’m sorry that this was so long and if I have offended anyone in the way that I said it I apologize and hope that they can, in the spirit of Christ, forgive me. If I have offended anyone with the substance of what I have said then I cannot apologize for what I have prayerfully considered and believe to be Truth.

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10. Coram Deo,

    I retract my “baseless distortion.” However I continue to hold my position that you are becoming more and more like the Pharisees with every post you write. I understand that the Gospel is the “strategy for changing the culture,” the “strategy for changing men’s hearts” etc. For you to insinuate that I “may be confused about what a Christian actually is” is also baseless and insulting. I would suggest that we all follow the example of Christ when dealing with unbelievers, to present the Gospel with love and respect. Don’t try to bring up the angry Jesus in the temple here: I fully hold that we should scourge and castigate those who would use the Church, both local and universal, for monetary gain.

    “Jesus said whatever you do to the least of these my brothers you’ve done it to me. And this is what I’ve come to think. That if I want to identify fully with Jesus Christ, who I claim to be my savior and Lord, the best way that I can do that is to identify with the poor. This I know will go against the teachings of all the popular evangelical preachers. But they’re just wrong. They’re not bad, they’re just wrong. Christianity is not about building an absolutely secure little niche in the world where you can live with your perfect little wife and your perfect little children in a beautiful little house where you have no gays or minority groups anywhere near you. Christianity is about learning to love like Jesus loved and Jesus loved the poor and Jesus loved the broken.”– Rich Mullins

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11. Grant,

    I take no offense to what you’ve said.

    The only evidence I’ve ever seen for evolution is pictures pointing out how similar certain creatures look. While this may be convincing to an evolutionist, to me it only indicates that these animals have the same Designer. Another tactic evolutionists use is to point out occurrences of microevolution and say it proves macroevolution.

    In Mark 10:6, Jesus said, “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.'” (If you look at the context, He’s referring to a human male and female, not male and female bacteria.) If evolution is true, Jesus is a liar. Why would there be no indication in the Bible if evolution were true?

    Also, Adam and Eve brought death into the world through sin. The Gospel collapses if there was death in the world before sin.

    The Bible admits that it is foolish to men. I think we all have to decide whether we’re going to go with the widsom of men or the Bible.

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12. Grant, That was very well said!

    I was raised a six day creationist as well, so i know where you and the others are coming from. People like Coram Deo scare me… seriously.

    To each his own, I guess. I just with that fellow Christians could be more respectful with regards each other’s personal beliefs or opinions. Christianity would regain much lost ground if these folks would just understand that…

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13. Dear Rusty et al:

    If you want to engage in the debates on DefCon you are welcome to do so. However, if you are:
    1). Going to camp here for the sole purpose of fighting, or

    2) Begin hurling thinly-veiled condescending insults (People like Coram Deo scare me) then I suggest you find another blog to spread your seeds of doubt and mistrust as I will not tolerate it here.

    For a necessary disclaimer for DefCon I suggest you read this post that I had to publish back on my other blog, Reformation Nation. It’s unfortunate that measures like this have to be taken, but as the administrator of this blog I cannot and will not permit debates to deteriorate into, “Hey look how smart we are and how dumb those Christians are.” If those who disagree with Christianity would just put their fists down and stop clenching their teeth for a minute, it’s amazing what might be discovered.

    Sincerely,
    – The Pilgrim

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14. Pilgrim,

    I apologize if any of my comments were taken to be condescending or insulting. I have no problem with people holding opinions different than my own. I have truly enjoyed and been enlightened by many things I have read on here and on Reformation Nation. I do have a problem with my faith being unnecessarily judged because of a difference of opinion. If you or any other administrators wish me to stop posting on any given article or stop spouting any given opinion simply let me know, after all this is your space. I simply wish to let others on the site know my views in the hopes that they can be encouraged or learn from my thoughts in the way that I have from everyone else.

    Bill,
    I have never thought about the issue of death and the fall as it relates to evolution. That is a really interesting point and a very strong argument. I will have to look into this more. Do you know of any resources that could help me in my search for Truth?

    In Christ Alone,
    Grant

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15. Grant,

    Answers in Genesis has tons of good articles, and this is a good article on what we’ve been discussing:
    http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0717seven-reasons.asp

    Some other good sites are icr.org, drdino.com, halos.com.

    I’ve always believed that God created the universe, but in high school I read a book by Hugh Ross, who is a Christian who believes the universe is billions of years old, but doesn’t believe in evolution. I came to believe that, and continued for several years, until I really started studying the subject.

    I’ve become convinced that evolution is impossible, much less unbiblical. And if the creation really did take 6 days, there really isn’t any way to word it any more clearly from beginning to end of the Bible. Anyone who wants to read billions of years into the Bible has to do some pretty fancy footwork. There are some debates you can watch between the Answers in Genesis guys and Hugh Ross, and I’m sure they’re available for free somewhere on the internet.

    Thanks,
    Bill

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16. Rusty,

    I only have one remaining word for you; “Repent”. Please e-mail me if you would like for me to share the eternal gospel with you. I pray that God would open your eyes to His truth.

    Grant,

    Evidently you and I see things quite differently, as it were from two totally unique perspectives. I think this hypothesis is true.

    Therefore if it’s all the same to you I’ll just abide in the trust of God’s Word with a child like faith and continue in my firm belief that the ONLY rational, intellectually consistent, and reasonable course of action for any human being is to submit to and obey the One who Himself created rationality, intellect, and reason; the One True and Living God who has revealed Himself and His will for man uniquely within the 66 books of the Holy Bible.

    In [Christ] are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge – Col. 2:3

    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever. – Psalm 111:10

    In closing I must say that find it truly remarkable that so many who claim Christ (i.e. professing Christians) esteem themselves so highly as to subjugate God Almighty to scrutiny within the high court of appeals of their own man centered and sinfully corrupted reasoning powers. It’s remarkable all right; in fact it’s more than remarkable! It’s remarkable, astonishing – and breathtakingly arrogant. I don’t believe it’s an overstatement to say that such behavior is the very height of satanic hubris and wickedness.

    It’s quite easy to understand how the unregenerate Christ rejecting world gleefully commits this rankest and grossest act of utter wickedness and satanic hubris, but a professing Christian? It’s shameful, and no matter how often I encounter it, it never ceases to amaze me.

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17. Pilgrim, thank you for your comments. You are right and I will stop arguing. I never meant to come off that way, but I felt like I was being attacked by Coram Deo. To be honest, I was (still am) utterly shocked at Coram’s response to my first ever comment on this blog.

    So far, I have been called:

    Ignorant

    Pitiful

    An unbeliever

    Not a true Christian

    poor, unbelieving Rusty

    My comments referred to as “stultified, clumsy, and frankly ignorant assertions”

    breathtakingly arrogant

    I am commiting “this rankest and grossest act of utter wickedness and satanic hubris”
    …

    I just don’t understand where that all came from when all I did was try to show a different view on God’s creation and try to explain myself tou you all when challenged.

    That said, i find this to be over all a good place for fellow believers to hang out and exchange ideas and opinions with each other. it’s just a shame that it turns into “this”

    Bill and Paul, I have enjoyed reading your posts. You’re obviously good Christian people; we just disagree on some suff, but who cares???

    Coram deo does scare me. That is a fact and I’m not not going lie or pretend it’s not true!

    I hope I can continue to hang out and post here.
    Please don’t take my differing views as disrespect; It is never meant to be that.

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18. Coram Deo,

    This will (hopefully if I can control myself) be my last post on this topic. I am sorry that we cannot come to any kind of understanding. I am even sorrier that you did not feel that you could try and enlighten me without resorting to judgmental comments. If you disagree with me that is fine, but to claim that my interpretation of Scripture is “the very height of satanic hubris and wickedness” is across the line. I do not feel that I can learn anything from your comments. I only wish that you could have followed the example of Bill who was able to debate with me on a very respectful level. I will pray for you and the anger and resentment that must be in your heart. I welcome your prayers for me. I will leave you with the words of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior:

    “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”-Matthew 7:1-5

    I was and am completely willing to examine my views on creation and see if they are a beam for me. Instead of giving me insight into why evolution was incompatible with the Genesis story you chose to treat me as if I were ignorant of the Gospel. It never ceases to amaze me how Christians can become so caught up in the hubris of their interpretations of Scripture that they act as if they alone had the right to the Truth of God. Coram Deo, unless God has spoken to you personally and physically please do not take such a condescending manner of “enlightening,” you have not the authority

    In Christ Alone,
    Grant

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19. Having read through all the posts on this, it would be easy to come to the conclusion that there is none so blind as those who do not wish to see. But on the other hand, what of those who are truly seeking the truth but do not seem to know where the answers are located? This may be through willful ignorance or a lack of Biblical teaching which focuses the human intellect on the Sovereign God of the universe.

    It is also clear that mere arguments have been ongoing many decades, and neither this article nor accompanying comments are going to solve all the problems that surround the testy and turbulent issue of creation vs. evolution.

    I would like to attempt to answer a few of the posts and hope they are taken in the manner in which I am writing them. It is my prayer that in all things Christ Jesus is exalted and to do so may mean putting personal feelings aside.

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    Hebrews 11:1-3 states, “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.”

    Rusty, if you are going to be honest about your thoughts, even you would have to state that whether you believe in evolution or creation, it is based on a high level of faith. Either your faith persuades you that we can take the God of heaven literally at His Word, or your faith persuades you that “thus says God’s Word” is not really so now that we sit in an enlightened age of modern technological advances.

    In your very first comment you noted, “I don’t get that logic. You evidence for ID needs to be more than simply… the other theory can not explain everything…” It would be preposterous to actually believe that CD, Pilgrim, myself or others believe in the “theory” of creation and intelligent design simply because evolution cannot be proven or explain anything. That would be the note of one who is weak in their faith and such a lack of biblical understanding that they have to depend on illogic or circular reasoning to prove their belief in creation.

    For myself, I do not try to disprove evolution by comparing creation for I believe there is nothing to compare. My faith in God and His Word is very strong and therefore, having an understanding of the frail human intellect and its innate desire to reject all that God considers truth and its sinful depravity, I must stand on the truth that abides forever.

    Later, I will attempt to answer more of the comments posted here under this particular blog, but for now I would like to conclude on the issue of faith.

    Faith cannot be worked up and Rusty again you are somewhat correct in your statement about no evidence for a creator for in and of itself, the human mind will never see the things of God for it is foolishness to us. It takes the Spirit of God giving us enlightenment. It takes faith to believe all that the world castigates and to simply take God at His Word. Where your faith and mine lay will determine who we are willing to follow.

    The world cares not for the things of God which is why they will strive from now until the second time ends to disprove the Bible. Much of what we see is a result of preachers and ministers not willing to take a stand back in the 19th century, so they and their congregations began to fall for the liberal elements who fell for the oldest and most subtle of all tricks created by the evil one – Lucifer himself – “Eve, did God REALLY say such and such?” Place doubts in the mind and the world is your oyster. Place faith in God and the world opens its riches before you at the spoken word of its Creator!

    More later!

    Thankful for Creation and the Creator,
    The Desert Pastor

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