So what you’re saying is that God wants me to party and mess me up?

Ever notice how so many of these “prophets” who claim to have “visions” go on to describe things about God that are so foreign to the God of the Bible that these alleged god-visions bear no resemblance to the nature of the holy One revealed in Scripture?

Oh, and as a bonus, Rick Pino is back to lead more youth astray with his doctrinally-void, trance-inducing, repetitious, square-dancing “worship” music. I can say I’ve never seen such a well-blended mix of the world’s music and that which is supposed to be honoring of God.

HT: A Little Leaven

And here’s an even more irreverent “holy ghost kegger-fest” complete with beach balls, guitar solos played with teeth, and complete disorder . . . all in church:

Christianity: It’s all about music?


In light of all the discussion surrounding music, I thought this piece by Columnist Ben Ratliff of the New York Times on High Desert Church in Victorville, California is apropos. If I didn’t know any better after reading his whole article, I’d think Christianity is all about music.

I’ve quoted fifteen points from this article (and numbered them for your convenience if you wish to comment on particular ones). I think you’ll find them rather interesting!

1).Mike Day, singer and guitarist, gathered his rock band around him. Dressed in a faded black T-shirt, jeans and skateboard sneakers, he bent his shaved head. “God,” he said, “I hope these songs we sing will be much more than music. I know it’s so difficult at times when we’re thinking about chords and lyrics and when to hit the right effect patch, but would you just help that to become second nature, so that we can truly worship you from our hearts?” A few minutes later the band broke into three songs of slightly funky, distorted rock with heaving choruses . . .

2).There has been enormous growth in the evangelical Protestant movement in America over the last 25 years, and bands . . . now provide one of the major ways that Americans hear live music. [Of] the house bands that play every weekend in High Desert Church there are a dozen or so [who] scavenge some of their musical style from the radio and television. They reflect popular taste, though with lyrics about the power of God, not teenage turmoil.

3).“When you start a church,” said Tom Mercer, 52, the senior pastor, “you don’t decide who you’re going to reach and then pick a music style. You pick a music style, and that determines who’s going to come.”

4).HighDesertChurch has a sprawling concrete campus that includes a lavish auditorium, a gym, classrooms and office space for its 70 employees.

5).A number of factors encouraged the church’s expansion . . . . in 1993 the church hired Jeff Crandall, the drummer for a Christian punk band called the Alter Boys, as its music director. Mr. Crandall, 46, spent more than a decade crossing the country in vans, playing in churches, nightclubs and high school gyms, fighting the battle for a more progressive and aggressive worship music. “I knew that the future, even in the early ‘80s, was with bands in churches,” he said. “I liked hymns as a kid, but I just didn’t see myself waving my arms and directing them. I’ve always been one of those guys who tries to figure his own way.”

6).What he did was to pack the church with rock ‘n’ roll. He organized a rotation of bands . . . playing to multiple services. And then he let them play, loudly.

7).High Desert Church holds three different large services over the weekend for three different age groups, with music tailored to each audience . . . Seven . . . the 18-to-30-year-old set . . . Harbor, the 30-to-55 group . . . and Classic, for people 55 and over.

8).The church also maintains even more bands for services at the junior high, high school and elementary levels. Each band carefully calibrates its sound toward the pop culture disposition of the target age group.

9).Young people and future generations are in fact the fixation of High Desert Church, which has already broken ground on building a children’s ministry complex called Pointe Discovery, a $20 million project financed entirely by worshiper donations. “If I ask God’s people to give me $20 million,” Mr. Mercer said during an interview in his corner office, “when I stand before God someday, I don’t want to hear him say, ‘Dude, you wasted a ton of my money.’ I want him to say, ‘You did a good job.’ My definition of a good job is that it will impact people until Christ comes back.”

10).Praise-rock is at the heart of that impact. The teenagers and young adults at High Desert . . . say they joined the church for the teaching and the community, and stayed because of the bands. But some are clearly more enthusiastic about the music itself. “I started out in Harbor, but I moved to Seven because I liked the music more,” said Tony Cherco, 32, a recent arrival to the church who would not have been out of place in the EastVillage: he wore a long beard and large rings in his earlobes. “Between Pastor Tom and the music of Seven, I was like, yes!”

11).To generalize, the music tailored to the Seven service is modern rock, with a modicum of wired aggressiveness. (In its sets before and after the pastor’s sermon, the band does play some adaptations of hymns, including a power-chord version of the doxology. It was arranged by the worship minister Matt Coulombe to approximate the droning, locomotive style of the secular New York rock band Secret Machines, one of his favorite groups).

12).The music of Harbor, meanwhile, resembles U2 from about 1985, while the Classic crowd gets a softer and more acoustic sound, like the West Coast folk-rock of the 1970s. For the children, in both their Sunday school classes and youth group events, the music is pop-punk. The idea is to keep their attention with high energy, then to slide gradually toward contemplation.

13).On a Saturday afternoon in October a group for the junior high contingent, called Power Surge, which included four guitarists and two bassists, played in the church gym, rehearsing a version of the Jason Wallis song “Hey God.” Fifteen girls performed choreographed hand motions to the music, which sounded like pious Ramones:

Hey, hey, hey, God I love you

Hey, hey, hey, God I need you

I know there’s not anything you can’t do

I know there’s nothing you won’t see me through

Hey God!

14).For the most part the groups at HighDesertChurch don’t write their own songs; they are high-functioning garage bands, playing cover versions. But they operate in a large, modern auditorium with top-quality sound, lights and video operated by young volunteers; there are smoke machines and overhead screens that announce the title of each song and its lyrics.

15).Bobby Stolp, 39, a drummer in several different bands here, agreed. “It’s all about the heart of worship,” he said. “God can enjoy a distorted guitar as well as a clean guitar. Especially when you’re playing it for him.”

Steven Curtis Chapman–“No Greater Love”

This week’s video comes from…me. This is a little video I made, set to SCC’s song about forgiveness and reconciliation. The man you hear chanting at the end of the song is one of the men who carried out the attack on Ed McCully, Nate Saint, Jim Elliot, Pete Fleming, and Roger Youderias. His name is Mincaye.

Men of courage with your message of peace
What is that look in your eyes?
Why have you come to this faraway place?
What is this story you would lay down your life to tell?
What kind of love can this be?

There is no greater love than this
There is no greater gift that can ever be given
To be willing to die so another might live
There is no greater love than this

Broken hearted from all you have lost
How can you sing through your tears?
What is this music that can bear such a cost?
What is this fire that grows stronger against the wind?
What kind of flame can this be?

This is the love that God showed the world
When He gave us His Son
So we could know His love forever
Beyond the gates of splendor

There is no greater love than this
There is no greater gift that can ever be given
To be willing to die so another might live
There is no greater love, there is no greater love, there is no greater love than this

Here is a video of Mincaye with Steve Saint, son of Nate Saint (I didn’t make this one. haha.). As you watch this keep in mind that Mincaye killed Steve’s father. What’s the worst thing someone did to you (Not to mention Richard Abanes by name).

Strange fire.

I am sure some of the people in the following two videos sincerely believe that they are participating in a form of “worship” that is acceptable to God. I grieve for them, especially the young, because I was there not too long ago myself. With very limited Biblical literacy and understanding, I too was swept up in all the emotion that these kinds of “shows” are designed to create. I was front and center to the wolves in the pulpits and the snakes with the guitars who were drumming up false fire and false excitement because the Holy Spirit was not in it.

VIDEO 1

The deep doctrinal truths found in the lyrics of Rick Pino’s worship music reflects the deep doctrinal truths found in Todd Bentley’s messages.

If you can get through the first 4 minutes of annoyingly juvenile repetitious “worship,” you get even more annoyingly juvenile repetitious “worship.”

HT: Dale McAlpine

See another, more deeply disturbing, Bentley “worship” service here on this previous post.

VIDEO 2

And if the first video isn’t bad enough, Mr. Pino caters to the lusts of the flesh as he takes an 80’s secular song and interjects the name Jesus into it.

“Jesus spins you ’round like a record” (where’s that in Scripture?). But it’s what he makes the people do with their socks–in the name of Jesus–that’s really disturbing.

See more foolishness from Rick Pino here.

Another sad example of pragmatic church marketing.

For those who read my previous post on horrendous church ads and billboards (found here), I have one more to add. Behold the following sign which declares this church “Ichabod!”

So my question is this: What is the context of the sign?

1. Beatles-style worship.

2. Beatles-led worship (like this Elvis-led worship).

Or

3. The worship of the Beatles.

A reminder to pray for our troops

One of the first Christian concerts I ever went to was to see Avalon. Also appearing that night was a fellow I had heard of (and heard some of his songs, though I didn’t know they were his). His name was Mark Schultz. He has done such songs as “I Am the Way,” “You Are a Child of Mine,” and “I Have Been There.” This night, he did a song that he had just finished. It was the performance of the night.

As we approach Independence Day, let us remember that there are men and women who are sacrificing so much, going without, for the sake of us and others.

Sola Fide.

I first heard this song On Faith Alone on the radio and quickly came to love it. I would like to take this opportunity to share it with all the readers of DefCon.

Not only is the music beautiful, but the lyrics (which I’ve included below the video) are biblically solid–not the sappy, happy, clappy, hip-hop, bubblegum pop that so fills the Christian airwaves of today.

This song ranks right up there as one of my new favorites alongside At The Crossroads. I am certain you will enjoy it and it will be a blessing to you this Lord’s day. Sola Fide!

On faith alone I stand.
There is no higher ground.
I give all I am.
for my soul will never doubt.
Though the storms they may be raging.
You have always held my hand.
To thy cross my heart will always cling.
On faith alone I stand.
On faith alone I live.
Not in what I say or do,
But the blood you freely give covers me and makes me new.
For your love is ever with me.
Lord Jehovah great I am.
O my trust grows stronger on my knees.
On faith alone I stand.
Hallelujah,
hallelujah,
hallelujah.
On faith alone I stand.
When I reach my final breath,
and I fall into your arms.
I’ll proclaim with no regret.
On faith alone,
sola fide,
sola fide,
sola fide.
On faith alone I stand.
Hallelujah,
hallelujah,
hallelujah.
On faith alone I stand.
On faith alone I stand.

It is well with my soul.

I hope this song will bless and encourage you this Lord’s Day.

It is Well With My Soul by Horatio Spafford.

When peace, like a river, attendeth my way,
When sorrows like sea billows roll;
Whatever my lot, Thou has taught me to say,
It is well, it is well, with my soul.

Refrain

It is well, with my soul,
It is well, with my soul,
It is well, it is well, with my soul.

Though Satan should buffet, though trials should come,
Let this blest assurance control,
That Christ has regarded my helpless estate,
And hath shed His own blood for my soul.

Refrain

My sin, oh, the bliss of this glorious thought!
My sin, not in part but the whole,
Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more,
Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

Refrain

For me, be it Christ, be it Christ hence to live:
If Jordan above me shall roll,
No pang shall be mine, for in death as in life
Thou wilt whisper Thy peace to my soul.

Refrain

But, Lord, ‘tis for Thee, for Thy coming we wait,
The sky, not the grave, is our goal;
Oh trump of the angel! Oh voice of the Lord!
Blessèd hope, blessèd rest of my soul!

Refrain

And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight,
The clouds be rolled back as a scroll;
The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend,
Even so, it is well with my soul.

Refrain


The gospel according to Bruce Springsteen.

Leave your Bibles at home for this one folks; a whole month of sermons based on Bruce Springsteen’s lyrics await you at Grace United Methodist Church (and the descent into complete apostasy continues).

Read this article about the Reverend Morris Brown using Bruce Springsteen’s music to teach the Bible.

Brown says a lot of thought is being put into the sermons so as to not alienate non-Springsteen fans.

Whew, thanks Reverend Brown. Now what about not alienating those who expect faithfulness to the preaching of the Word, sound biblical teaching, a separation from the world, and a reverence for the things of God? Or have those “fundamentalists” already been run off long ago?

His past series offerings playing off pop culture have included a “Games People Play” summer series using board-game strategy and “Lessons from the Motley Crew,” in which the sermons played off the name of the popular rock band Mötley Crüe to talk about spiritual lessons to be learned from the lives of Jesus’ 12 disciples and Mary Magdalene.

I can only imagine what’s next.

Oh wait, I don’t have to imagine, there is more here.



Glorious Resurrection Sunday; He Is Risen; Worthy is the Lamb!

He was pierced through for our transgression,

He was crushed for our iniquities;

The chastening for our wellbeing fell upon Him,

And by His scourging we are healed.

All of us like sheep have gone astray,

each of us has turned to his own way;

But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him.

Isaiah 53:5-6

A little road called the Via Dolorosa.

Watch the Lamb.

Worthy is the Lamb that was slain

to receive power and riches

and wisdom and might

and honor and glory and blessing. . . .

To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb,

be blessing and honor and glory

and dominion forever and ever.

Revelation 5:12-13

Oh Amy Grant, what have you become?

Contemporary Christian Music recording artist Amy Grant is receiving her star on Hollywood’s walk of fame in this clip. But not all is at it seems. Amy Grant utters something that may come as a shock to some (hopefully many).

Skip ahead to 8:00 minutes and begin listening from there. Her comment hits at exactly 8 minutes and 21 seconds. And what’s equally disappointing is the reaction of the crowd.

Amy, did you not care about the children that were in attendance? Did you not care about the influence of your behavior and immodest dress on those who look up to you? Did you not care about the example you set for the Savior that you claim to represent?

 

Language Warning


U2 Exposed

I was in a local Christian (paraphernalia) bookstore last week when I came across a new book by Bono of U2 prominently displayed on a table. My first thought was why?

Then there’s the blasphemous “U2-charist” from this church where U2 songs are performed as worship songs.

So with all the recent hoopla surrounding U2, I thought you’d like to know the real story behind the music. Check out the following video produced by Pastor Joe Schimmel.

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