Another black cloud moving in from the horizon.

As a follow-up to The Brewing Storm and the Coming Demise of DefCon, Another Clap of Thunder, and I Feel Raindrops, I now submit for your consideration more proof of the coming storm of persecution against true Biblical Christianity.

Although I don’t agree with everything he says (i.e. what appears to be his Dominionist view), this article from Chuck Baldwin entitled Army Report Says Christians Threaten US Foreign Policy should raise the hair on the back of every Christian’s neck.

Here’s what Ingrid Schlueter had to say about it:

Islam may be sending its warriors to fly planes into US buildings, bomb our subway systems and plan[t] dirty bombs in major cities, but the threat that gets the attention of the US military is Christians and their end-times beliefs. This is a very disturbing column from Chuck Baldwin who tells about the army report that fingers American Christians as a threat because of their eschatology. Please see how your tax dollars are being spent and how you, as Christians, are being once again promoted as a “threat.”

With the terrorist shooting by a Muslim soldier at base on American soil recently, you’d think the Army would have a better grasp on the real threat from within.

19 thoughts on “Another black cloud moving in from the horizon.

  1. The article would be funny, if not so serious a subject that proves why I am trying to sound the alarm – we are in a spiritual civil war. I would like to know who commissioned the study.

    “”War is primarily about politics”? I thought war was about defending the people and territory of the United States. I thought war was about protecting freedom and liberty.”

    I thought it was well estabished since the Roman republic and time of Christ, War is politics. Some say an extension, but today it is the only reason to follow the ungodly puppets we have.

    I like Pastor Baldwin and hope Christians can find Christians willing and able to represent them in public office. Their lives will truely be at stake, and it will be a thankless burden for real heros. I don’t care if it is just the Common Sense party, we need real Christians as representatives. Christians are now a special interest, no longer the silent majority.


  2. Read the article, and seeing what my family is currently going through, it’s not surprising. Canada is close behind the States, and has its own problems. The attack against the believer and his family is being ramped up here and no, things won’t get better. I know that when a pastor of some sort says that God gave him a vision that says revival is coming, and many will be saved…etc., he is wrong and hasn’t heard from God. God is purifying the churches if He’s doing anything else and getting His true church out before they get swept up in the flood of deception. The problems will only get worse, the deception will only increase and we as the true church will be hiding in caves and holes in the ground soon enough.


  3. I read that report a week or so ago and thought it typical of two things: the widespread and largely unknown acceptance of dispensationalism and the government’s innate inability to see straight or do right.

    All in all, Christians are to be ready for the return of our Lord. His kingdom is not of this world and neither are we 🙂


  4. A few years back 00 to 06,I had been reading and seeing all that was coming on that we see now, I’m not prophesing, I’m telling you the way I saw it before I got on the web or started looking closer at those who say they are the children of God or those who speak like some saw it as well, and there are many.
    What I had been reading was Gods word and asking Him to open my eye’s so that I could see. What He first showed me was my inabliaty to make my self righteous and that I was with out hope having no way to his kingdom in and of myself and when I would stand before him in that day I would be condemed. And through His kindness he called me to repentance and to trust in His Son that He gave for my ofences and sin.
    Then it was as if a vail had been removed from my eyes and little by little what I saw was not a world where all were on a walk to God but that they were on a trail that was wide and broad filled with self rightousness, couvetousness, lusting of all kinds for a world that is no part of Gods righteousness. In fact His truth shows they are so far from his word and His never changing Spirit. They are antichrist, this world is in darkness. And no matter how they try to come to Him on their own works it is not of Him.
    Some of you have seen it, your eye’s have been opened, you see the sin that is of the govenment or any other human efforts in this world and they are not His. And though He as raised them up for His purpose,He is still showing His people His grace and calling them to His Son and His coming world. No matter how faint it is because of the flesh that we still indwell; His Spirit is showing us truth through his word and the living Son of God.
    Yes it is coming as this artical shows. But they are pweny and of no concern compaired to Him who controls what is coming on them, who controls even the eliments of His universe.
    But believe you me, I’m not going to stop telling others of His Righteousness nor His Son. I’m not taking any number nor any of their so called new world religion. How could I after seeing his truth and tasting of His grace.


  5. Pilgrim: thank you for the reminder that what is prophesied in God’s word will surely come to pass, and is steadily heading in that direction.

    Manfred’s comment expresses the bottom line: “All in all, Christians are to be ready for the return of our Lord. His kingdom is not of this world and neither are we.”

    Christians who lose sight of the fact that we are strangers, sojourners, pilgrims in this temporary time and place (where we will not spend eternity), tend to freak out about the concept of persecution. Rather, we need to be focussed on living obediently to the Lord for this one day we are given. And if He so wills, we may see tomorrow on this planet.


  6. This is an article I felt God led me to write one day about this very problem. The world is dying of a terrible disease and we, as the body of Christ have been given the antidote to help them. What is this antidote? The Truth of Jesus Christ being the only Way the only Truth and the only Life and unless these sick people realize this and repent of their sin before Him, they will die and be cast into Hell forever. Another thing that struck me about this article that reminded me about mine was, the more we hang around the world and live in the world, the more we expose ourselves to this sin-sickness. I was chastised by a friend when I said this to him, so I said, “You being a Christian with eyes to see and ears to hear, go to a strip club and live there inside all of that for six months and tell me that you would be a different man after that period of time.” The more we expose ourselves to the corruption and rottenness of the world, the greater our chances of catching the disease of sin. I likened it to leprosy. I told my Bible study, this story: What if you were walking down the mall and saw a store that appealed to your senses and you thought from the outside, and from what you have heard on TV, that the place was pretty cool. So you go in. You stand back in horror as you see the employees ripping off rotten body parts and giving them to the patrons. What would you think? What would you think if everyone that walked into this store came out a rotten leper? You probably wouldn’t go back. In fact, you might even call the authorities on the store and demand it be shut down. I just described the media and commercialism of the world today. The more you expose yourself to it, the more you allow yourself to become desensitized to the dangers of it. The less sensitive you become, the more you expose yourself…the cycle continues until you are dead.

    As the deception continues to grow, we will be faced with decisions to make. These decisions will in fact be lifesaving, or shall I say, soul saving decisions because as I said above, the more we expose ourselves to the world’s ways, ideas and environment, the greater our chances of catching what they have. The ONLY reason we should truly be going into the world is to administer the antidote of Jesus. Not for entertainment, not to “have fun”, not recharge our batteries. You wouldn’t go to a leper colony to have a vacation, would you? As a fish out of water, so is the Christians when he ventures into the world…

    Thank you DEF. CON. for posting this, for we need to be reminded of our role in this world and keep to the Master’s orders only and be alert and watch, for the Master returns when we all least expect Him to.


  7. As Jesus and His followers approached Jerusalem at the time of Passover, rumors began to spread of a rebellion against Rome. People were worked up and excited over the idea that Jesus would establish the throne of David, and rule His people. However, instead of inciting violence, Jesus told a parable.

    And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. – Luke 19:11

    This parable serves as a warning to the people of God even today. It is a warning to stay busy until the Ruler of the Kingdom returns.

    And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come. – Luke 19:13

    What will believers on the Lord Jesus Christ do with the treasure of the Gospel message as we await the return of our King? Will we fail to guard it, and allow it to be taken from us and corrupted? Or will we, in seeking to protect it, hoard it up, and fail to put it to maximum use?

    When the ruler in the parable returned to obtain an accounting of the treasure he had given the servants, he found that he could trust and reward those who had worked diligently with what they had been given.

    And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities. – Luke 19:17

    Today is the day for believers to get busy, and stay busy, using the great gift of the Gospel message to do the work of our Ruler, anticipating His soon return!


  8. What about the eschatology of Islam and the 12 Hidden Imam who’s supposed to bring peace and justice (how ironic, eh?) at the end of the world? Where’s the military on THAT with the Muslims? This is what I’m referring to:

    This is part of what is driving Ahmadinejad as President of Iran.

    I’ll say this: people SHOULD FEAR JESUS CHRIST. When He returns, it will be to destroy His enemies in righteous wrath in judgment. Who are we? Nothing. But should fear Him Who can destroy both body and soul in Hell.


  9. Because Islam, Buddhism, etc…do not threaten man’s ways, ego or lusts. Only Jesus Christ has so bluntly come out and said give everything up, pick up your cross and follow Me. Christ demands complete and total submission, loyalty and faithfulness, nothing less than 100% is acceptable. These ungodly, ruthless, political monsters want the world and destroy all who stand in their way. Satan wants to take everyone he can to hell with him when he goes. So between man’s lust for power and Satan’s lust for revenge on God’s children, no wonder we have a bulls-eye on our foreheads.
    BTW, Denise, your last comments reminded me of this video by Steve Lawson…awesome stuff.


  10. Now why would anyone think a ‘fundamentalist-extremist’ would be a threat to our country and our way of life?
    IF the fundamentalist-extremist happens to be a Dominionist ‘christian’ ; then you have an enemy OF DEMOCRACY.

    I quote Rushdoony, a celebrated Dominionist, who didn’t live to create WWIII in order to ‘bring Christ back’; but who did leave us with this little gem (one among many, many quotes that warn our people of the intentions of the ‘Dominionists’):

    “One faith, one law and one standard of justice did not mean democracy. The heresy of democracy has since then worked havoc in church and state . . . Christianity and democracy are inevitably enemies. (p 100) [R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law]”

    What the gov’t is watching is NOT ‘Christians’ per se, it is the fundamentalists-extremists among them, calling themselves ‘christians’, who will undermine our way of life if they can do it. They are not Christ-like. They are not Christian.


  11. I believe this below and that makes me a ‘fundamentalist-extremist’ acording to those who are passing the hate crime laws as I set here and peck this out. Because it condems them and they hate Gods word.

    Rom 1:27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due.
    Rom 1:28 And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting;
    Rom 1:29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    Rom 1:30 backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    Rom 1:31 without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful:
    Rom 1:32 who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them.

    Col 3:5 Put to death therefore your members which are upon the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry;
    Col 3:6 for which things’ sake cometh the wrath of God upon the sons of disobedience:

    2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    2Ti 3:3 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good,
    2Ti 3:4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God;
    2Ti 3:5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof: from these also turn away.

    1Ti 6:3 If any man teacheth a different doctrine, and consenteth not to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
    1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up, knowing nothing, but doting about questionings and disputes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
    1Ti 6:5 wranglings of men corrupted in mind and bereft of the truth, supposing that godliness is a way of gain.

    Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be anathema.
    Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so say I now again, if any man preacheth unto you any gospel other than that which ye received, let him be anathema.

    Jud 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.


  12. I left out that it is hate hate speech as well, can’t have the citizens looking over your shoulder telling you that putting poison Fluoride in the water doing who knows what to your body should not be done, and as Stalin and Hitler did, using it for mind control in their prison camps so everyone one would be easy er to handle, yes telling the empire it is a sin just wont do.(look at your tooth past tub and read the warnings, if their still there)
    Or giving your kids vaccines in the whole of their lives with enough mercury in them to dumb them down forever, no an evil empire can’t have that.
    Or scaring the whole nation into taking vaccines that did little more than line the pockets of big pharma, that would be fraud.
    Or telling the evil empire that abortion is murder and that using our tax money to fund it against our will is theft and fraud.
    “Or telling them that the murder of Innocent women and children in a war that was half hazardly jumped into over a lie about weapons of mas destruction is not Christian and we wont have it. And I’m going to say too that it may have even been an inside job, don’t tell me other wise until you have seen the evidence that would at least call for an investigation.
    So whats an evil empire to do? shut them up of course. Can’t have people in a republic telling the government that was suppose to for the people by the people telling you not to do something thats an out right sin.
    They got the answer change it to a democracy them they can vote them out and vote in laws that abridge the law of the land so they can then turn around and join the new global government and then they can really bring out the eugenics.


  13. There was a story from last year when the Swine Lie, I mean, Flu was at its height. At a clinic that was administering the vaccine, someone dropped a mercury thermometer, causing mercury to spill all over the floor. They called the HazMat team in and closed the place down for hours until the spill “was contained”. These silly fools don’t realize but the Swine Flu contains a dead bird flu, a live common flu and…mercury plus other interesting things. All vaccines have mercury in them. One doctor was quoted to say, “We have to get rid of the stuff somehow…” Vaccines are killing our children at an alarming rate and those who survive live a life of pain and suffering. And what happens? The Child Welfare people come in and accuse the parents of abuse when in fact it is the vaccines. This world is getting worse and if you dare call yourself a Christian, you will be targeted, you will picked on and chances are you will lose ALL.


  14. I wish the government would focus on the drug gangs/terrorists before they even consider law abiding Christians, but that would be eliminating the marketing department for their own products.


  15. We have no rulers as in a king but we do have elected official, many that are suppose to work together not as supreme but under our constitution and the bill of rights, fallowing it’s precepts to the T. That’s not been done. So we have checks and balances that are suppose to keep them in their realm of duty and boundary’s of their jobs. Good bye first amendment. Because what their saying that those who would voice their opinion, their freedoms of speech that rings the bells of alarm and points a finger at those who would remove those freedoms of the constitution and the bill of rights are now in sedition. That is tyranny. Not a ruler or a king but law breaker’s of our law’s of the land. When they make laws that go against our established laws in the constitution or bill of rights well that makes them the seditionist. And in my humble opinion to oppose them is neither unchristian or unamerican. But I still think it would be folly to do it by force for those out side or in Christendom.

    Those who have turned our laws all around and changing our laws have done so with the utmost secrecy. Like those in the Trilateral commission, the Council on Foreign Relations. And even those who are elected have met with the likes of the Bilderberg group as well as inlisted in those afore mentioned groups. With what has become evident today as conspiring to bring the United States under a Global government, more so known as the new world order, which was made famous and sounding like such a great deal was George H Bush. And what was suppose to be a conspiracy is now open and out from undercover all to see, unafraid of its people’s, openly flaunting their lawless deeds that are unconstitutional and breaks the laws of our land.
    These people have gotten the upper hand through election have done so through the subversive use of the media, using its power to gain seats in both house and senate as well as the presidency. They are in the military as high office of control, and at the beckoned call of those who are in elected power writing military plans to suppress the people it was once suppose to protect. Yes we are just starting to see the prophesies of Revelations that says;And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

    But no one ever said that those who would ride in on the dragons back would be powerless, Oh, but contrar quite powerful, to the point that all would say who is able to make war with him.Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

    The devil even offered the kingdoms of this world to our Lord tempting him. And as he comes on us with all the power he can muster here on earth where he as been thrown down, rememberRev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

    And what is that faith…God tells us in his word what the end is for these who give there power to the beast; Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

    And as they scurry for the holes in the hills and his resurrection of the dead and then the living meet with him in the air, Then will we praise his name and these will be no more and all our tears will have dried up and the sorrow’s of this world will be over. Jud 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, Jud 1:25 To the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


  16. This is the people at the Alliance of Civilization a part of the
    UN that wants to help fudamintalist Christians find a better way to understand our selves into relation to other religeons with mind set of hope for all the world with a better understanding of who is under their power with their military backing we’ll soon be under their tyanny. Watch if you haven’t seen it all ready and you’ll understand what is coming on this world a little better. Remember that the publishing company, a branch of the UN is Lucus trust which use to be called Lucifers trust???Oh and Hal did you know speaking of drug gangs that the US and the UN refused russias request to mow down the poppy fields in Afghanistan???


  17. jonathan,

    Thanks for posting that video – as disgusting as it is. Anyone who claims Christ and agrees with those people in the video on the topics addressed therein is deceived.


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